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		<title>By: Chris Oliver</title>
		<link>http://crashsystems.net/2009/01/keryx-tutorial/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@VoltRabbit
Issue resolved here: http://keryxproject.org/forums/index.php?page=findpost&amp;post=18

You just forgot to use &quot;cd&quot; in front of the keryx directory. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VoltRabbit<br />
Issue resolved here: <a href="http://keryxproject.org/forums/index.php?page=findpost&amp;post=18" rel="nofollow">http://keryxproject.org/forums/index.php?page=findpost&amp;post=18</a></p>
<p>You just forgot to use &#8220;cd&#8221; in front of the keryx directory. <img src='http://crashsystems.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: VoltRabbit</title>
		<link>http://crashsystems.net/2009/01/keryx-tutorial/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>VoltRabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I signed onto the members site, but this topic seems to be more active at the moment. 
 
The tutorial looks great, but as a classic user, I am hitting some snags. I get as far as step 2. Ive been doing some reading trying figure it out, maybe I need the wxPython thing. 

I run /media/kingston/keryx-0.92.1/linux and get: 
Bash: /media/kingston/keryx-0.92.1/linux: is a directory

user@user-desktop:-$ python keryx.py --create jake-desktop debian
python: can&#039;t open file &#039;keryx.py&#039;: [Errno 2] No such file or directory.

I downloaded keryx 0.92.1 on my kingston thumbdrive while using my windows xp online pc. I have tried removing the extracted files I originally extracted in while using the windows pc, and extracting the files while on my ubuntu offline pc.

Cool program, can&#039;t wait to figure it out, my bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I signed onto the members site, but this topic seems to be more active at the moment. </p>
<p>The tutorial looks great, but as a classic user, I am hitting some snags. I get as far as step 2. Ive been doing some reading trying figure it out, maybe I need the wxPython thing. </p>
<p>I run /media/kingston/keryx-0.92.1/linux and get:<br />
Bash: /media/kingston/keryx-0.92.1/linux: is a directory</p>
<p>user@user-desktop:-$ python keryx.py &#8211;create jake-desktop debian<br />
python: can&#8217;t open file &#8216;keryx.py&#8217;: [Errno 2] No such file or directory.</p>
<p>I downloaded keryx 0.92.1 on my kingston thumbdrive while using my windows xp online pc. I have tried removing the extracted files I originally extracted in while using the windows pc, and extracting the files while on my ubuntu offline pc.</p>
<p>Cool program, can&#8217;t wait to figure it out, my bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Oliver</title>
		<link>http://crashsystems.net/2009/01/keryx-tutorial/comment-page-1/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Currently Keryx uses a VERY simplistic download system. It does not work with proxies very well and does not check to see if files already exist. This is going to be changed in Keryx 1.0 though, we will be using Urlgrabber which was created for Yum. It works extremely well and will resolve all of our downloading issues like that.

The package lists should only download the latest packages when you select to install something. The version comparison is actually semi-complicated and could very well be flawed and that would be what is causing your problem. This should all be resolved in the next version of Keryx as well. Remember, its still pretty much an Alpha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently Keryx uses a VERY simplistic download system. It does not work with proxies very well and does not check to see if files already exist. This is going to be changed in Keryx 1.0 though, we will be using Urlgrabber which was created for Yum. It works extremely well and will resolve all of our downloading issues like that.</p>
<p>The package lists should only download the latest packages when you select to install something. The version comparison is actually semi-complicated and could very well be flawed and that would be what is causing your problem. This should all be resolved in the next version of Keryx as well. Remember, its still pretty much an Alpha.</p>
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		<title>By: Renaud</title>
		<link>http://crashsystems.net/2009/01/keryx-tutorial/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Renaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 07:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Keryx is quite a very nice piece of software. Congratulations!

Playing a bit with it I noticed the following things:

- I ran the &#039;Get updates&#039; procedure twice in a row and it looks like the download is performed at each time, even if all the updates were successfully downloaded during the first run. Does the update procedure check if the updates are already present in the project directory? Maybe, this could avoid some extra downloads and save time.

- some repositories of my sources list contain the same packages but with different versions (eg. Ubuntu official repos with some version of R and CRAN repository with the latest version of R, usually newer than the Ubuntu one). 
The packages installed on my remote machine are the latest ones (from CRAN). When I run Keryx to get the updates, all these packages appear in red, flaged as &#039;Newer than Repository&#039;. I tried putting the CRAN repository at the top and end of the sources list but it did not change anything.
Is it a known behaviour? Does the list loader take into account multiple available versions of packages?

Thanks and well done again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Keryx is quite a very nice piece of software. Congratulations!</p>
<p>Playing a bit with it I noticed the following things:</p>
<p>- I ran the &#8216;Get updates&#8217; procedure twice in a row and it looks like the download is performed at each time, even if all the updates were successfully downloaded during the first run. Does the update procedure check if the updates are already present in the project directory? Maybe, this could avoid some extra downloads and save time.</p>
<p>- some repositories of my sources list contain the same packages but with different versions (eg. Ubuntu official repos with some version of R and CRAN repository with the latest version of R, usually newer than the Ubuntu one).<br />
The packages installed on my remote machine are the latest ones (from CRAN). When I run Keryx to get the updates, all these packages appear in red, flaged as &#8216;Newer than Repository&#8217;. I tried putting the CRAN repository at the top and end of the sources list but it did not change anything.<br />
Is it a known behaviour? Does the list loader take into account multiple available versions of packages?</p>
<p>Thanks and well done again.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Oliver</title>
		<link>http://crashsystems.net/2009/01/keryx-tutorial/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sudhir
Keryx downloads the updates for the installed packages that you have when you select Get Updates. This is like using Update Manager on your offline machine. It downloads the list of all the latest software to get you the newest updates and also lists the newest packages so that you can go download the newest software as well, for example, the latest VLC would be available if you used Keryx.

@Chiflado
For now you need python installed as well as wxPython (http://www.wxpython.org/download.php). You can then run Keryx from keryx.py and if you&#039;ve got wxPython installed it will bring up the interface just like it would if you ran it on Windows or on Linux that had wxPython installed.

@Apoorv
Since Keryx is still in development I have just been able to finish up the bare minimum, it does the absolute basics. Over the summer that is going to be one of the main features I will be adding. :) It will take care of installing the packages, copying over the list files and the packages over to the apt cache folder. I&#039;ll try to keep everyone posted on the development/release status!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sudhir<br />
Keryx downloads the updates for the installed packages that you have when you select Get Updates. This is like using Update Manager on your offline machine. It downloads the list of all the latest software to get you the newest updates and also lists the newest packages so that you can go download the newest software as well, for example, the latest VLC would be available if you used Keryx.</p>
<p>@Chiflado<br />
For now you need python installed as well as wxPython (<a href="http://www.wxpython.org/download.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.wxpython.org/download.php</a>). You can then run Keryx from keryx.py and if you&#8217;ve got wxPython installed it will bring up the interface just like it would if you ran it on Windows or on Linux that had wxPython installed.</p>
<p>@Apoorv<br />
Since Keryx is still in development I have just been able to finish up the bare minimum, it does the absolute basics. Over the summer that is going to be one of the main features I will be adding. <img src='http://crashsystems.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It will take care of installing the packages, copying over the list files and the packages over to the apt cache folder. I&#8217;ll try to keep everyone posted on the development/release status!</p>
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		<title>By: Apoorv Parle</title>
		<link>http://crashsystems.net/2009/01/keryx-tutorial/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Apoorv Parle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great. Just great.

I have a suggestion. If I want to download 2 softwares X and Y but I want to install only X and if X doesn&#039;t work then I&#039;ll install Y.

Why don&#039;t you just copy the package lists to /var/lib/apt/lists and deb files to the /var/cache/apt/archives so that installation can be done by apt-get or by synaptic or by any other tool like restricted driver manager etc.
This will let the beginners and GUI lovers use Synaptic and will make your tool usable with restricted-driver-manager etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great. Just great.</p>
<p>I have a suggestion. If I want to download 2 softwares X and Y but I want to install only X and if X doesn&#8217;t work then I&#8217;ll install Y.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you just copy the package lists to /var/lib/apt/lists and deb files to the /var/cache/apt/archives so that installation can be done by apt-get or by synaptic or by any other tool like restricted driver manager etc.<br />
This will let the beginners and GUI lovers use Synaptic and will make your tool usable with restricted-driver-manager etc</p>
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		<title>By: Chiflado</title>
		<link>http://crashsystems.net/2009/01/keryx-tutorial/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiflado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how do you use Keryx to download updates with OS X? That would help a lot, I&#039;ve got a Linux friend with no internet at home in need of updates

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how do you use Keryx to download updates with OS X? That would help a lot, I&#8217;ve got a Linux friend with no internet at home in need of updates</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Sudhir</title>
		<link>http://crashsystems.net/2009/01/keryx-tutorial/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Sudhir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks you guyz.. 
This is what I was looking for since a long time.

However I have a question, whenever I click on get updates, it downloads hundreds of files. does it download all the new softwares from repository or just updates for installed packages?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks you guyz..<br />
This is what I was looking for since a long time.</p>
<p>However I have a question, whenever I click on get updates, it downloads hundreds of files. does it download all the new softwares from repository or just updates for installed packages?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Goulou</title>
		<link>http://crashsystems.net/2009/01/keryx-tutorial/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Goulou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s some good news :-)

In my case, what was most important was not to have an estimation of installation time, but rather an estimation of download time, which is easier to estimate after the first few seconds...
For installation, maybe you could just add something like &quot;installing package X of Y&quot;, or make an estimation based upon the size of the packages themselves... (ok, it&#039;s not very accurate, but it&#039;s usually quite verified...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s some good news <img src='http://crashsystems.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In my case, what was most important was not to have an estimation of installation time, but rather an estimation of download time, which is easier to estimate after the first few seconds&#8230;<br />
For installation, maybe you could just add something like &#8220;installing package X of Y&#8221;, or make an estimation based upon the size of the packages themselves&#8230; (ok, it&#8217;s not very accurate, but it&#8217;s usually quite verified&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Douglass Clem</title>
		<link>http://crashsystems.net/2009/01/keryx-tutorial/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglass Clem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our thoughts exactly! We have plans for automatic installation, and hopefully it won&#039;t be too long before they are implemented. Basically, Keryx is going to add an entry into your sources.list to create a local (on the USB stick) repository of the packages you downloaded, allowing Keryx to hook into apt-get.

We have also been planning on improving the progress bar, and the statistics idea (how many packages being installed, etc) is a very good idea. I&#039;m not sure how feasible the installation time estimate is though, as that his highly dependent upon the hardware of the machine running the installations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our thoughts exactly! We have plans for automatic installation, and hopefully it won&#8217;t be too long before they are implemented. Basically, Keryx is going to add an entry into your sources.list to create a local (on the USB stick) repository of the packages you downloaded, allowing Keryx to hook into apt-get.</p>
<p>We have also been planning on improving the progress bar, and the statistics idea (how many packages being installed, etc) is a very good idea. I&#8217;m not sure how feasible the installation time estimate is though, as that his highly dependent upon the hardware of the machine running the installations.</p>
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